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dana, your thoughts on that? >> that would be well and good except they're also getting all the taxes to go up at the same time so they're not achieving anything by that. the republicans realize they lose politically if we go over the fiscal cliff, but this isn't just a political thing. the country loses economically if we go over it and then everybody is going to suffer -- >> let's go back to normal world. assume everybody is rational for five seconds. >> i can't do that. >> dana, you first. you're here in washington and then ron. what's the game play out the next few days. i think the republicans have reached the end of the line. they're hoping obama will show his cards and come out with cuts for entitlements and then they will show something on tax cuts. >> he has no incentive to do anything at least publicly. >> will they show their cards on tax cuts first ? >> they have to. >> who is going to show their hand first. >> the republicans. they're going to have to. obama can stand pat and he's doing it right now.
dana, your thoughts on that? >> that would be well and good except they're also getting all the taxes to go up at the same time so they're not achieving anything by that. the republicans realize they lose politically if we go over the fiscal cliff, but this isn't just a political thing. the country loses economically if we go over it and then everybody is going to suffer -- >> let's go back to normal world. assume everybody is rational for five seconds. >> i can't do that....
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we saw it in ohio, dana, last year. there was extensive coverage of what happened in wisconsin in part because of the governor there. but the fact that this is getting less attention this time around, is that some sort of indication that this is the way the world is going? >> you know, i don't think so, necessarily, chris. i mean, it's clear that governor snyder started looking for the scott walker prize and tea party a adulation there. it seems to me what happens is you do have these periodic overreaches after an election. you saw it on the other side, republicans complained with some justification that obama rather than focusing on the economy went ahead with obama care and he paid for that. i think you're going to see the same sort of backlash here where voters have been saying very clearly they want action on the economy. now it becomes sort of an anti--union effort that has very little to do in the short term with the economy. so maybe, you know, they may be able to get their right to work thing through there but t
we saw it in ohio, dana, last year. there was extensive coverage of what happened in wisconsin in part because of the governor there. but the fact that this is getting less attention this time around, is that some sort of indication that this is the way the world is going? >> you know, i don't think so, necessarily, chris. i mean, it's clear that governor snyder started looking for the scott walker prize and tea party a adulation there. it seems to me what happens is you do have these...
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a pair of esteemed washington writers, jonathan capehart and dana milbank, political columnist. welcome to both of you. if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long time on these issues. it's just that we don't like what he's saying. we don't like his prescriptions for how he would help the poor. personally, i think paul ryan -- >> how does it help the poor by stripping meals on wheels, remove pell grants, how does that help the poor? >> that's a question for congressman ryan. i'm telling you from his mindset, his perspective, one way to help people and the economy is to ensure the country is on sound financial fiscal footing. the way he wa
a pair of esteemed washington writers, jonathan capehart and dana milbank, political columnist. welcome to both of you. if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance...
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what's your reaction to what i was just putting to dana? there has been this critique of susan rice as having been overly aggressive in some way, but that often strikes me as a typically sexist reaction by men who don't like women who are successful, frankly. >> remember before hillary clinton was the most beloved woman on the planet, she was an ogre for saying things that didn't sound lady like to people about cookies and such. there is a different standard for women and how they are to behave. i think for her there is that but there is a list of people she's given sharp elbows to. it's a list of one. it's john mccain. during the campaign she criticized his irresponsible statements about iran, the singing about bomb bomb iran. she characterized him a reckless individual who shouldn't be president. that was during the campaign. and a lot of the anger i would guess of john mccain towards susan rice has to do not so much with her being a woman, but with her being not deferential to john mccain. >> now, we've had a statement from senator linds
what's your reaction to what i was just putting to dana? there has been this critique of susan rice as having been overly aggressive in some way, but that often strikes me as a typically sexist reaction by men who don't like women who are successful, frankly. >> remember before hillary clinton was the most beloved woman on the planet, she was an ogre for saying things that didn't sound lady like to people about cookies and such. there is a different standard for women and how they are to...
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joining me now is dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." he's writing about the republicans waving tax hikes and cynthia tucker and visiting professor of journalism at the university of georgia. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> hi, reverend. >> good to be here, reverend. >> dana, are republicans really ready to cave? >> well, reverend, first of all, terrific particular to see you and ann coulter on the same page. they've caved already. they have said, we're going to agree to an $800 billion tax increase. it's entirely possible that they are going to go off the cliff any way. it doesn't mean that a deal is imminent. it basically means that they surrender. they used to say that they wouldn't give a dime of tax increase for spending cuts. now they are saying, let's go and do it if we can get $3 of taxes for spending cuts. >> the choice may be down to, do they make the deal before the deadline or do they let it go over the cliff and then come back and vote the tax cuts for the medical class iddle class f to have a tack increase.
joining me now is dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." he's writing about the republicans waving tax hikes and cynthia tucker and visiting professor of journalism at the university of georgia. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> hi, reverend. >> good to be here, reverend. >> dana, are republicans really ready to cave? >> well, reverend, first of all, terrific particular to see you and ann coulter on the same page. they've caved...
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you know, i take dana's reference to "lord of the flies." it's really more like a monkey's wedding or something out there, the disarray in the republican party. >> i have never been to one of those actually. >> well, you can imagine the confusion. yeah. but it's the ideologues versus the pragmatists. the pragmatists simply want to serve their donor base. that's why they don't want to raise taxes on the rich, but the ideologues have a different game altogether. they want to bring down government basically. >> well, you can't watch the game without a scorecard. here is some more of the people on the pragma side, and it's an unusual shaping up. bill kristol is leading the criticism, that the republicans need a come to jesus moment. he writes, it may be major parts of american conservatism have become such a racket that a kind of refounding of the movement as a cause is necessary. joe scarborough, our colleague, amplified his opinion on "morning joe" yesterday. let's listen to joe. >> conservatism is a racket for a lot of people to get very, ver
you know, i take dana's reference to "lord of the flies." it's really more like a monkey's wedding or something out there, the disarray in the republican party. >> i have never been to one of those actually. >> well, you can imagine the confusion. yeah. but it's the ideologues versus the pragmatists. the pragmatists simply want to serve their donor base. that's why they don't want to raise taxes on the rich, but the ideologues have a different game altogether. they want to...
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and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> dana? >> newt gingrich's crystal ball has had some difficulties before because he predicted that this year we would have president newt gingrich, which didn'texac pated. he makes a valid point about hillary. it's not that surprising. but also, and i think we've discussed this before, it seemed very likely that the party that won in 2012 would be in a formidable position in 2016 because of where the economy is likely to be because of where it was in 2012. so the incumbent party, the democrats in this case, are going to be in a very strong position. and if hillary is the nominee, obviously, she's going to be the beneficiary of that. >> i just love a world where after being bill clinton's presidency, now gingrich is one of the great clinton champions, along with much of the republican party. it has been fast nating to see the republicans embrace hillary clinton, in particular. >> he also doesn't know how popular president obama is. but i'm going to have to leave it there. i was going to talk a
and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> dana? >> newt gingrich's crystal ball has had some difficulties before because he predicted that this year we would have president newt gingrich, which didn'texac pated. he makes a valid point about hillary. it's not that surprising. but also, and i think we've discussed this before, it seemed very likely that the party that won in 2012 would be in a formidable position in 2016 because of where the economy is...
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thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. >>> you've heard the expression you are what you eat. try this one, you vote what you eat. according to david wasserman of the cook political report, president obama won 77% of counties that contain a whole foods store. no surprise really.
thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i...
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dana, christina, thanks to both of you. a reminder you can watch "meet the press" coming up here at the top of the hour. a reair of that show. right now, the dallas cowboys are playing in cincinnati. one of their players is in court accused of killing teammate. he's charged with intoxication manslaughter of brown. he was driving drunk when he was speeding in his mercedes. flipped and skidded hundreds of feet early saturday morning. he began pulling brown's body from the wreckage. they were roommates and attended college together. he's grief stricken and could face 20 years in prison. >>> a dramatic rescue in eastern afghanistan. a doctor kidnapped five days ago has been freed by a coalition group. they took him on wednesday in the sarobi district outside of kabul. six people were killed and two taliban leaders arrested during this dangerous mission. he is seen here in this video posted by youtube. there's no word on his condition or if he was harmed while in captivity. >>> the public outcry over the radio hoax aimed at a ro
dana, christina, thanks to both of you. a reminder you can watch "meet the press" coming up here at the top of the hour. a reair of that show. right now, the dallas cowboys are playing in cincinnati. one of their players is in court accused of killing teammate. he's charged with intoxication manslaughter of brown. he was driving drunk when he was speeding in his mercedes. flipped and skidded hundreds of feet early saturday morning. he began pulling brown's body from the wreckage. they...
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thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ur rate cd. ur rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're read
thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ur rate cd. ur rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the...
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. >> dana, the chair of the house committee on foreign affairs calls this missile launch the result of quote, the obama administration's policies of appeaseme appeasement. i'm sorry to have to ask you this question for about the 9 millionth time. why can't the gop move past its baseless 2012 attack lines and try to think of something constructive to do with this kind of issue? >> right. it feels like -- and it's not just north korea. we heard the same on iran. the cowboy diplomacy saying be tougher. in this case what exactly does that mean? does that mean launch a strike on this nuclear power potentially causing the loss of tens of millions of people. what exactly is the alternative here now that north korea has been in this position since it gained nuclear power under -- during george w. bush's watch. so the notion of a sort of rattling during these times is not terribly productive. and indeed the argument is often made that the more aggressive the response is, the more it empowers the government in north korea. so less is often more in these circumstances. >> indeed it is. ambassador
. >> dana, the chair of the house committee on foreign affairs calls this missile launch the result of quote, the obama administration's policies of appeaseme appeasement. i'm sorry to have to ask you this question for about the 9 millionth time. why can't the gop move past its baseless 2012 attack lines and try to think of something constructive to do with this kind of issue? >> right. it feels like -- and it's not just north korea. we heard the same on iran. the cowboy diplomacy...
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. >> dana, is any of that going to make a difference or maybe a broader point is how much are outside groups generally, whether it's on the hill or on tv influencing this debate? >> if it works as well as karl rove's effort during the campaign, i think the president is going to ask him to run more of those ads because it didn't work out so well for him the last time. this is a little different from a political campaign in that spending by interest groups is probably not going to be big enough to crowd out all of this noise that's being made here. i think that interview you just had with tom price was extraordinary for what he didn't say. he didn't say i won't allow taxes to increase. he said it depends on what the overall package is. that's an extraordinary admission is for one of the most conservative congressmen in the house and i think it shows where these guys are headed. >> when you look at the polls and you see how the messaging is working, susan, and to what we've been talking, about the pressure that these republicans feel, in fact there are even some disgruntled republicans,
. >> dana, is any of that going to make a difference or maybe a broader point is how much are outside groups generally, whether it's on the hill or on tv influencing this debate? >> if it works as well as karl rove's effort during the campaign, i think the president is going to ask him to run more of those ads because it didn't work out so well for him the last time. this is a little different from a political campaign in that spending by interest groups is probably not going to be...
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fox news contributor dana perino slugged that suggestion off, and instead placed blame on victims. >>> in the big finish tonight, the supreme court will hear its first same-sex marriage case. justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck down proposition 8 on the basis it stripped individuals of rights previously granted when same-sex marriages were permitted in the state. opponents of same-sex marriage appealed the ruling to the supreme court which will now review the decision. the court will also take up the defensive marriage act case which challenges a section of the law that defines marriage as between a man and a woman for the purposes of receiving federal benefits. this mean the highest court now has the opportunity to rule on whether gay americans have the same constitutional right to marry as hetero sexual americans. the court'
fox news contributor dana perino slugged that suggestion off, and instead placed blame on victims. >>> in the big finish tonight, the supreme court will hear its first same-sex marriage case. justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck...
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. >> karen, if we can spich topics, this week dana perino told a fox news panel that women should, and i'm quoting her, make better choices to avoid being victims of domestic v violen violence. on thursday with the same panel she limited her discussion to just talking about domestic violence. what did you think when you heard those comments? >> well, a couple thoughts. obviously, i do not in any way shape, or form blame women, but the piece that i thought was interesting was that the panel itself kind of moved on from what was i think an important point she was making and then i think actually i heard s.e. make some of the same points earlier this week on "the cycle." we went right to the gun control issue and i think there are very serious issues about women and domestic violence. you have the violence against women act, reauthorization sitting right now in congress recognizing this is a serious issue. i would have a slightly different take on what she was saying, and that is i would like to see us find more ways to empower young women. we know domestic violence among young women is g
. >> karen, if we can spich topics, this week dana perino told a fox news panel that women should, and i'm quoting her, make better choices to avoid being victims of domestic v violen violence. on thursday with the same panel she limited her discussion to just talking about domestic violence. what did you think when you heard those comments? >> well, a couple thoughts. obviously, i do not in any way shape, or form blame women, but the piece that i thought was interesting was that...